Faithwire – Christian Leaders Leaving Faith

It’s a disturbing trend. Christian leaders are renouncing their faith. Dan and Dale have an honest conversation about these sad events.

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  1. They ARE the wolves in sheeps clothing/the scribes and pharisees/the money changers ect… Jesus said they were taking over the church to destroy it from within. They never had any faith to lose. All they had were get rich quick schemes to defraud their followers. When will people start listening to God and get out of the churches that have only taught lies for the last 2000 years. Jesus's church died with the last disciple. When you put away the things of this world and start listening to God you start to see the spiritual aspects that no one has taught for 2000 years. This world is carnal, and will be destroyed with all who remain carnal at the coming of Christ. It is only those who start listening to the apostles, and prophets (all of them) who will understand it is we who need to change. Not God. God's message is only complete when we put back together all the teachings of all the prophets and apostles. Then we will see the spiritual path. Then we can make the way strait. We need to stop listening to men and start listening to the Holy Spirit.

  2. As believers we should not be concerned about this, as in the Book of Timothy, it said in the last day's some would depart the faith. The bible foretold this would happen 2, 000 years ago, so another proof the bible is true. Put your faith in Christ alone (not man), as JESUS is the same yesterday, today and forever.

  3. Research The Dark Night of the Soul! Many saints throughout the ages talk about this. Keep those men and women suffering from this that they rekindle their heart and know internally that God has never left them even in their internal struggle of faith!

  4. 1 John 2:19 says, "They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us, but their going showed that none of them belonged to us." NIV version, but stating if they walk away from the Lord they were never saved to begin with. It's really sad how people choose to follow a dying world instead of following the Lord.

  5. It is an end time sign, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3, the great falling away, it is a spirit of rebellion, even the elect will be deceived, there is a great deception, the world or culture is speaking louder than the Church. My son is one, having fabulous God given gifts in media is one who has lost his faith. Media is the tool the enemy is using to deceive people. I am reminded of the Dream Dr Sumrall had 30 or more years ago of thousands of people walking towards a cliff, with their eyes fixed on a TV, so much so, that walk off the cliff. Dr Sumrall said God showed him decades ago that the MSS would be the end time deceiver.

  6. Ephesians 4:11-12 KJVS
    [11] And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; [12] For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
    The above are Christian leaders.
    Philippians 3:17-21 KJVS
    [17] Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. [18] (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: [19] Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) [20] For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: [21] Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

  7. Faith is believing in God and Jesus and the word of God. How can anyone who believes in Jesus lose their faith?
    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in his wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of his glory and grace

  8. Meh – Paul became all things to all people – and I don't think that this has done that or is doing that. It's not egregious, but it's missing the point and sowing division.

  9. I left Christianity when I could no longer live with the lies of the Sabbath being changed, the feast days just vanishing, and the ill-advice of eating stuff that simply isn't food, but rather that science can show are toxic waste disposal units. I researched the anti-semitic history of Christianity. I see that a country that claims to be between 75 and 90 percent Christian has a problem with abortion, drugs, etc. "By their fruit you know them." The falling away already happened and it's called Christianity.

  10. Most Christian's have an encounter with the Holy Spirit.

    The folks who have the encounter with the holy spirit will not leave the Faith

    But if you never had that encounter and are just playing Church, then yea your foundation is planted on shakey ground and cannot stand.

    1 John 2:19

    They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.

    We all have choices to make let's continue to pray for them that they would come a true saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

    God bless

  11. With Love n Respect. Odd that some of the same people who "discerned" Family away by telling them how wrong they are according to religion now talk faith and say We can fall away from that too.
    Once U surrender/sacrifice the you that suks away Life and ask Faith in, nothing is ever the same, proving that like He said Faith "Will never leave nor forsake." Please Family remember if He will never forsake Us it means We can't b without Him, or do some think themselves so powerful?
    Love n Blessings Family!!!

  12. with all the love in my heart I have to share this the host and guest as well as the listeners. how we handle talking about this topic or any topic and no matter on what level of discussion EVERY TRUE christian should be referencing scriptures. Only Gods Words have the answer and power to show what's wrong and how it is to be handled. otherwise we are just talking like news commentators. seems empty…
    Question… Shouldn't God's Word just roll off our tongues?
    But Gods Word says, …
    Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

    3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
    4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. -2 Tim. ch.4

  13. The question is whether these Christian Leaders were ever a Child of God? Are these among those that Jesus was referring to in Matthew 7:21-23? Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

  14. Well this is it! Titanic is sinking because the watchmen are asleep… When the ego is fed constantly at Church… and is all about promises and not about THE PERSON OF GOD… when people look for prophesies all the time, as the horoscope, and there is no revelation of THE WORD of GOD… when you want to befriend the World and never die to the flesh nor take “your cross everyday and follow JESUS…” this happens. When worship songs need to be “cool” instead of pleasing and acceptable to GOD THE FATHER in THE SPIRIT and in THE TRUTH… and there is no relationship with THE LORD because they never really were born again in the first place… that happens. When there is a rush to finish the Service at Church and you want GOD to speak to you when you decide, and we spend more time watching movies, and magic, and witchcraft… the filth everywhere… sexual depravation, no consecration, and care way too much about the “likes” on Facebook and the media, than speaking TRUTH then this happens… of course it was written, but we all… me included… need to repent, and pray and cry… and live a consecrated Holy life in CHRIST JESUS… dangerous times… very dangerous…

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